BlueSunD
02-16 05:56 PM
count me in too! :) Just started today, but i'll see if I post some wip screens.
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zen
04-06 09:33 PM
good post ek_bechara!
ppl, think for yourself. don't believe in the rumor unless it happens to YOU!
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The problem with what you say is that if it happens to you then it is too LATE !!
but I agree we need to wait for verification ....I guess if this is very common or becomes common ..they you will see such reports on lawyers websites saying that this is happening to their clients
ppl, think for yourself. don't believe in the rumor unless it happens to YOU!
!
The problem with what you say is that if it happens to you then it is too LATE !!
but I agree we need to wait for verification ....I guess if this is very common or becomes common ..they you will see such reports on lawyers websites saying that this is happening to their clients
imh1b
11-12 04:03 PM
Did you see that whoever is crying for spillover is EB2 India. or EB3 ROW. He has his priority date pretty close to cutoff dates in bulletin. So they think by doing spillover their greencard will come few months earlier. This is a selfish thinking. IV should not help such people. They do not care about us. They only care about getting their own greencard. I will oppose this campaign and send letters against this campiagn to whoever you are sending. This campiagn does no help to EB3 India. I am sure many EB2 ROW will oppose you and send letters against your letters. You are trying to delay EB2 ROW greencards by taking from their quota. Even Chinese will oppose you because there are too many Indians blocking the system for everyone.
IV should spend money for EB3 India rather then EB2 India who are already in advantage.
IV should spend money for EB3 India rather then EB2 India who are already in advantage.
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amitga
02-08 03:26 PM
What a waste of numbers.
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NKR
09-18 09:49 AM
It is not end of the world. But end of the economy as we know it. People smarter than me and you have said this is turning into an armageddon.
Economy is falling, people are losing jobs, fuel prices are rising, depressing is coming, housing market is going down. Look at the brighter side, if you invest in constructing industry building apartments you can make money now.
Jokes apart, what were the people smarter than me and you doing to prevent all this from happening?. Weren;t they smart enough then?.
Economy is falling, people are losing jobs, fuel prices are rising, depressing is coming, housing market is going down. Look at the brighter side, if you invest in constructing industry building apartments you can make money now.
Jokes apart, what were the people smarter than me and you doing to prevent all this from happening?. Weren;t they smart enough then?.
singhsa3
02-21 02:41 PM
Assuming you are right then,
average visa issued for EB1 ROW+Non ROW over the last 5 years have been 26K,
Now assuming this year the demand would be close to average then. It leaves 14K for EB2
Implying 12/2003 dates movement is very likely as 14k>5k (your number)
I can share some estimates for EB2 India through Dec03. I wish had the cases as a database, Then we could query for all dates.
Column 1: PD
Column 2: Nbr. Of EB2 India pending from
Column 3: Estimated Universe of EB2 India Pending ( to Universe ratio of 6.75%)
Column 4: Cumulative EB2 India pending
2000-01 0 - -
2000-03 0 - -
2000-04 1 15 15
2000-06 1 15 30
2000-08 0 - 30
2000-11 1 15 44
2000-12 0 - 44
2001-01 0 - 44
2001-03 1 15 59
2001-04 3 44 104
2001-05 2 30 133
2001-06 6 89 222
2001-07 3 44 267
2001-08 1 15 281
2001-09 1 15 296
2001-10 6 89 385
2001-11 2 30 415
2001-12 2 30 444
2002-01 5 74 519
2002-02 4 59 578
2002-03 1 15 593
2002-04 3 44 637
2002-05 11 163 800
2002-06 7 104 904
2002-07 5 74 978
2002-08 5 74 1,052
2002-09 5 74 1,126
2002-10 14 207 1,333
2002-11 16 237 1,570
2002-12 11 163 1,733
2003-01 13 193 1,926
2003-02 12 178 2,104
2003-03 20 296 2,400
2003-04 13 193 2,593
2003-05 16 237 2,830
2003-06 17 252 3,081
2003-07 22 326 3,407
2003-08 18 267 3,674
2003-09 18 267 3,941
2003-10 29 430 4,370
2003-11 17 252 4,622
2003-12 18 267 4,889
Total 330 4,889
average visa issued for EB1 ROW+Non ROW over the last 5 years have been 26K,
Now assuming this year the demand would be close to average then. It leaves 14K for EB2
Implying 12/2003 dates movement is very likely as 14k>5k (your number)
I can share some estimates for EB2 India through Dec03. I wish had the cases as a database, Then we could query for all dates.
Column 1: PD
Column 2: Nbr. Of EB2 India pending from
Column 3: Estimated Universe of EB2 India Pending ( to Universe ratio of 6.75%)
Column 4: Cumulative EB2 India pending
2000-01 0 - -
2000-03 0 - -
2000-04 1 15 15
2000-06 1 15 30
2000-08 0 - 30
2000-11 1 15 44
2000-12 0 - 44
2001-01 0 - 44
2001-03 1 15 59
2001-04 3 44 104
2001-05 2 30 133
2001-06 6 89 222
2001-07 3 44 267
2001-08 1 15 281
2001-09 1 15 296
2001-10 6 89 385
2001-11 2 30 415
2001-12 2 30 444
2002-01 5 74 519
2002-02 4 59 578
2002-03 1 15 593
2002-04 3 44 637
2002-05 11 163 800
2002-06 7 104 904
2002-07 5 74 978
2002-08 5 74 1,052
2002-09 5 74 1,126
2002-10 14 207 1,333
2002-11 16 237 1,570
2002-12 11 163 1,733
2003-01 13 193 1,926
2003-02 12 178 2,104
2003-03 20 296 2,400
2003-04 13 193 2,593
2003-05 16 237 2,830
2003-06 17 252 3,081
2003-07 22 326 3,407
2003-08 18 267 3,674
2003-09 18 267 3,941
2003-10 29 430 4,370
2003-11 17 252 4,622
2003-12 18 267 4,889
Total 330 4,889
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RNGC
09-20 07:49 PM
Whilst in general a name change does sound like a good idea, we have spent a lot of time and money making sure that Immigration Voice as an organization is known.
It makes no sense to through that away
I am in no way trying to argue....I understand that "ImmigrationVoice" is now known very well ....by changing it to "LegalImmigrationVoice" we are not doing a whole lot of change, just adding a "Legal" in front.....we should maintain the same logo, so our identity will not change!
Just imagine you have no idea what IV is, you just come across the word "ImmigrationVoice" - how does it sound to you ? For me it sounds like we are just a pro-immigration group......No way it sounds like a Legal Immigration group....
Here in US large companies change names...so its not too late......adding a word "Legal", "Highly skilled" etc will go a long way for our future generations......
Just my $0.02
It makes no sense to through that away
I am in no way trying to argue....I understand that "ImmigrationVoice" is now known very well ....by changing it to "LegalImmigrationVoice" we are not doing a whole lot of change, just adding a "Legal" in front.....we should maintain the same logo, so our identity will not change!
Just imagine you have no idea what IV is, you just come across the word "ImmigrationVoice" - how does it sound to you ? For me it sounds like we are just a pro-immigration group......No way it sounds like a Legal Immigration group....
Here in US large companies change names...so its not too late......adding a word "Legal", "Highly skilled" etc will go a long way for our future generations......
Just my $0.02
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javadeveloper
12-11 11:52 AM
All of us (people on L-1, F-1, J-1, H1, B1, K1 and their derivatives....) went to US consulate to request for VISA. US consulate never came to your door with a VISA.
Everyone goes to Bank and do transactions , that doesn't mean that we only need Bank and Bank doesn't need us and our deposits.
Everyone goes to Bank and do transactions , that doesn't mean that we only need Bank and Bank doesn't need us and our deposits.
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piyu7444
01-30 09:24 PM
Before I answer your questions, I have couple of them -
Will she get paid starting Feb 1st? If no, why not. Please explain.
Will she on unpaid leave?
Will she still be Full Time Employee?
Will she get paid starting Feb 1st? If no, why not. Please explain.
She wont get paid starting Feb 1 but there is an option to get paid from Feb 1 - April 20 as she accumulated some $ when she was working and after April 20 she will be on maternity leave which will be unpaid.
To answer why she will not get paid - she does not have a project right now and dont even plan to find one....(bad economy and no one will be willing to employ a preg. female who will need 6-8 week vacation after 2 month of hire)
Will she on unpaid leave? Yes.
Will she still be Full Time Employee? For the employer C which is a desi consulting firm she is a FTE but you know how the consulting business works........as long as you are on project you get your salary and the day you are not on the project you dont get a dime.
Will she get paid starting Feb 1st? If no, why not. Please explain.
Will she on unpaid leave?
Will she still be Full Time Employee?
Will she get paid starting Feb 1st? If no, why not. Please explain.
She wont get paid starting Feb 1 but there is an option to get paid from Feb 1 - April 20 as she accumulated some $ when she was working and after April 20 she will be on maternity leave which will be unpaid.
To answer why she will not get paid - she does not have a project right now and dont even plan to find one....(bad economy and no one will be willing to employ a preg. female who will need 6-8 week vacation after 2 month of hire)
Will she on unpaid leave? Yes.
Will she still be Full Time Employee? For the employer C which is a desi consulting firm she is a FTE but you know how the consulting business works........as long as you are on project you get your salary and the day you are not on the project you dont get a dime.
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sanju
11-11 11:14 PM
We can all pitch in and send either congrats greeting card/flower along with IV letter highlighting our pathetic situation.
Hope he addresses something.
You are kidding, right? And you expect that sending flowers and greeting card to Obama will be returned by a favor by passing a bill every EB applicant a green card immediately. I guess you have not noticed closely what is coming our way. Wait and watch, and save the money that you are considering spending on flowers and card.
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Hope he addresses something.
You are kidding, right? And you expect that sending flowers and greeting card to Obama will be returned by a favor by passing a bill every EB applicant a green card immediately. I guess you have not noticed closely what is coming our way. Wait and watch, and save the money that you are considering spending on flowers and card.
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Aah_GC
04-25 10:30 AM
All,
Opened my email this morning to see the card production ordered email (time stamp in my inbox reads 2:15 am PST 4/23/08); the approval date was 4/23/08.
Been in meetings all day so not even a chance to call anyone about it.
Yay!
Good luck to all my fellow sufferers!
Googler
May congratulations to you Googler and wish you have a great future ahead.
Opened my email this morning to see the card production ordered email (time stamp in my inbox reads 2:15 am PST 4/23/08); the approval date was 4/23/08.
Been in meetings all day so not even a chance to call anyone about it.
Yay!
Good luck to all my fellow sufferers!
Googler
May congratulations to you Googler and wish you have a great future ahead.
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gcformeornot
02-03 09:02 PM
Guru's please check if this employment letter is enough for the above mentioned RFE....
Dear Sir/Madam
Re: Employment of Mr. John Doe
This is to confirm that Mr. John Doe is currently employed in our organization as a Senior Software Engineer at the annual salary of $ x per year.
Mr. Doe�s compensation package includes medical, dental benefits, sick leave and paid holidays.
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any questions.
Sincerely yours,
adding these additional things salary offered in LC is met....... this will not work. Per my attorney salary offered in LC needs to be without any such things.......
Dear Sir/Madam
Re: Employment of Mr. John Doe
This is to confirm that Mr. John Doe is currently employed in our organization as a Senior Software Engineer at the annual salary of $ x per year.
Mr. Doe�s compensation package includes medical, dental benefits, sick leave and paid holidays.
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any questions.
Sincerely yours,
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gvenkat
10-20 09:24 AM
Mccain is suportive to immigration yes. But not to legal but illegal. And there will be too m any distractions under his regime the 100 yer war in iraq and a new war in IRan that this will be in the back burner and the economy going down and us losing jobs so that we dont have to worry about GC. :mad::mad::mad:
Wake up US needs a change.. didnt we have a republican president for the last 8 yeras.. didnt the retrogession happen during that time.. so what we need is chnage and thigns will fall in place.. although Obama might not be pro-immigration we might have some transparency...
Wake up US needs a change.. didnt we have a republican president for the last 8 yeras.. didnt the retrogession happen during that time.. so what we need is chnage and thigns will fall in place.. although Obama might not be pro-immigration we might have some transparency...
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amsgc
02-04 02:12 AM
See response below.
Folks,
I am not a naysayer, I think the IV core team has done a great job of giving a voice to us.
But, there are a few questions that I am not convinced myself:
1. why remove per country quota just for EB, why not family based immigration as well?
=> Unlike family based immigration, Employment based immigration is based on the expressed need of US businesses for skilled labor. The position filled by EB based immigrants are first advertised in the local market, and if a US Citizen or LPR is not found with the requisite skills, only then is that job offered to a foreigner with the requisite skills. This means that the foreigner is needed by the US business to perform services on a permanent basis. In essence, the US gets a well trained and experienced foreign worker who is able to contribute to the economy on the day he gets his Green Card. It is very important to note that this job offer is made solely on the skills, education and experience of the foreigner, and the need expressed by a business. Also note that these individuals constitute only 14% of total immigration.
On the other hand, there is absolutely no information on how an individual who comes in through family based immigration will be able to find a job, and start contributing to the economy. I am not saying that these individuals are incompetent, only that there is no data on how they will fit in. If you look around you, you will find that most people who enter the US through family based immigration lack language skills, are much older, and find it difficult to start over and assimilate in a new country. Many end up doing odd jobs which can be really frustrating for them. Since there is really no business need for these individuals in this country, and because they are whopping 86% of all immigration, a cap on family based immigration does make sense.
You also need to understand the other important difference – most EB folks have already assimilated into this culture – they have been here for several years, worked a couple of jobs and in many cases attended US graduate schools.
2. what will happen after removing per country limits, what kind of numbers are we looking at? how many new PRs? What is the impact on the country,economic, social, cultural, I do care about the USA.
=> The result of removing per country limits will be that every individual will be given an equal opportunity to immigrate to the US based on their skills, education, and the specific need expressed by a US business. It will be a system where everybody gets in one line - first in, first out. Some will say that the current system is fair because every "country" gets a fair chance. But that is just and attempt to mislead. The "country" does not file a petition to immigrate; it is a skilled individual who files a petition to immigrate based on his skills, education and his requirement in the US.
Regarding numbers - I will give you a simple example. My GC process was started 3 years ago. My co-worker, who is from a non-retrogressed country, started his application last year. We both applied in the same category, and work in similar positions. We also have similar skills - US MS in CS. Because of the country caps, my application is still pending, whereas he already got his GC. If the country caps were removed, my wait time would have reduced by a year, his wait time would have increased by a year - we both would get the GC after waiting approximately the same amount of time. It would have been a first in, first out system. But it is not so, and it needs to be fixed.
Like you, we all care about the USA. I assure you that it will have only a positive social and cultural impact on the US. Why? Because removal of country caps would lead to a system that is based solely on merit and hard work. Isn't that what this country is about?
Regarding diversity – the individuals from retrogressed countries are already here, assimilating into the American fabric. Whether you give them the GC now or ten years from now, they will still be here - it will not change the ethnic character of this country.
3. By asking legislators to remove these per country quota limits, isn't this a paradigm shift in thinking?
=> This is not a paradigm shift. If you open your eyes and ears you will find hundreds of organizations set up across the US to educate and influence lawmakers about policies that should be put in place to better serve this country.
When I, a guy impacted by this EB backlog am not convinced, how the heck are we going to make a case to some congressman/woman?
=> Once you begin to feel the pain, you will understand. Perhaps you are new to the system, and are hoping that it will get better. It will not be long before you will suddenly find that a good number of years have gone by just waiting.
We should definitely move away from this snobbish view that EB folks are better than others, or that the USA needs the EB folks more than EB folks need the USA.
=> I am not sure where you get that EB folks are snobbish. It is not our issue - so whatever FB folks decide, it is up to them. Also, nobody said USA needs more EB folks, US businesses need the EB folks for whom a petition to immigrate has been filed and approved. Get the difference?
That said, I do believe that we have a humanitarian case for folks like us who are already in the queue. Educating congress about the path taken by the average EB immigrant would help.
=> You just contradicted yourself. A few sentences ago you seemed to imply that you really did not understand what could be gained by removing the country caps.
At the end of the day human life is human life even it is it Indian.
=> Really don't know what you are trying to say here. Anyway, if you feel the need to respond to this message, please do so after updating your profile.
Folks,
I am not a naysayer, I think the IV core team has done a great job of giving a voice to us.
But, there are a few questions that I am not convinced myself:
1. why remove per country quota just for EB, why not family based immigration as well?
=> Unlike family based immigration, Employment based immigration is based on the expressed need of US businesses for skilled labor. The position filled by EB based immigrants are first advertised in the local market, and if a US Citizen or LPR is not found with the requisite skills, only then is that job offered to a foreigner with the requisite skills. This means that the foreigner is needed by the US business to perform services on a permanent basis. In essence, the US gets a well trained and experienced foreign worker who is able to contribute to the economy on the day he gets his Green Card. It is very important to note that this job offer is made solely on the skills, education and experience of the foreigner, and the need expressed by a business. Also note that these individuals constitute only 14% of total immigration.
On the other hand, there is absolutely no information on how an individual who comes in through family based immigration will be able to find a job, and start contributing to the economy. I am not saying that these individuals are incompetent, only that there is no data on how they will fit in. If you look around you, you will find that most people who enter the US through family based immigration lack language skills, are much older, and find it difficult to start over and assimilate in a new country. Many end up doing odd jobs which can be really frustrating for them. Since there is really no business need for these individuals in this country, and because they are whopping 86% of all immigration, a cap on family based immigration does make sense.
You also need to understand the other important difference – most EB folks have already assimilated into this culture – they have been here for several years, worked a couple of jobs and in many cases attended US graduate schools.
2. what will happen after removing per country limits, what kind of numbers are we looking at? how many new PRs? What is the impact on the country,economic, social, cultural, I do care about the USA.
=> The result of removing per country limits will be that every individual will be given an equal opportunity to immigrate to the US based on their skills, education, and the specific need expressed by a US business. It will be a system where everybody gets in one line - first in, first out. Some will say that the current system is fair because every "country" gets a fair chance. But that is just and attempt to mislead. The "country" does not file a petition to immigrate; it is a skilled individual who files a petition to immigrate based on his skills, education and his requirement in the US.
Regarding numbers - I will give you a simple example. My GC process was started 3 years ago. My co-worker, who is from a non-retrogressed country, started his application last year. We both applied in the same category, and work in similar positions. We also have similar skills - US MS in CS. Because of the country caps, my application is still pending, whereas he already got his GC. If the country caps were removed, my wait time would have reduced by a year, his wait time would have increased by a year - we both would get the GC after waiting approximately the same amount of time. It would have been a first in, first out system. But it is not so, and it needs to be fixed.
Like you, we all care about the USA. I assure you that it will have only a positive social and cultural impact on the US. Why? Because removal of country caps would lead to a system that is based solely on merit and hard work. Isn't that what this country is about?
Regarding diversity – the individuals from retrogressed countries are already here, assimilating into the American fabric. Whether you give them the GC now or ten years from now, they will still be here - it will not change the ethnic character of this country.
3. By asking legislators to remove these per country quota limits, isn't this a paradigm shift in thinking?
=> This is not a paradigm shift. If you open your eyes and ears you will find hundreds of organizations set up across the US to educate and influence lawmakers about policies that should be put in place to better serve this country.
When I, a guy impacted by this EB backlog am not convinced, how the heck are we going to make a case to some congressman/woman?
=> Once you begin to feel the pain, you will understand. Perhaps you are new to the system, and are hoping that it will get better. It will not be long before you will suddenly find that a good number of years have gone by just waiting.
We should definitely move away from this snobbish view that EB folks are better than others, or that the USA needs the EB folks more than EB folks need the USA.
=> I am not sure where you get that EB folks are snobbish. It is not our issue - so whatever FB folks decide, it is up to them. Also, nobody said USA needs more EB folks, US businesses need the EB folks for whom a petition to immigrate has been filed and approved. Get the difference?
That said, I do believe that we have a humanitarian case for folks like us who are already in the queue. Educating congress about the path taken by the average EB immigrant would help.
=> You just contradicted yourself. A few sentences ago you seemed to imply that you really did not understand what could be gained by removing the country caps.
At the end of the day human life is human life even it is it Indian.
=> Really don't know what you are trying to say here. Anyway, if you feel the need to respond to this message, please do so after updating your profile.
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reddymjm
06-03 05:06 PM
Hi friends,
Please advise me on this situation.
I am currently in US with L1B with Company A.
Company B has already filed H1B petition for me.
Assuming it gets selected & approved, Is it Possible for me to Continue with Company A after Oct1 2007 with the L1 itself.
Thanks.
As soon as the H1B gets approved your L1 b goes invalid. The options you have is if you have ur L1 validity after oct go out of the country and come back on L1. Or if it is expiring in Oct or close to Oct your company can file extension if it gets approved you may be ok but the period you work during that might be illlegal. But as USCIS has no way of tracking all these last issued status is a valid status making ur H1b invalid. But I suggest to do the other way.
Please advise me on this situation.
I am currently in US with L1B with Company A.
Company B has already filed H1B petition for me.
Assuming it gets selected & approved, Is it Possible for me to Continue with Company A after Oct1 2007 with the L1 itself.
Thanks.
As soon as the H1B gets approved your L1 b goes invalid. The options you have is if you have ur L1 validity after oct go out of the country and come back on L1. Or if it is expiring in Oct or close to Oct your company can file extension if it gets approved you may be ok but the period you work during that might be illlegal. But as USCIS has no way of tracking all these last issued status is a valid status making ur H1b invalid. But I suggest to do the other way.
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onemorecame
09-21 03:58 PM
I hope approval and not denial or other RFE. My RFE is posted on 1st page of this thread and it took lot of documents. so hopefully we will hear good news...
How many days it took you to receive physical RFE after Online status update?
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go_gc_way
12-28 11:13 AM
Thanks Boreal,Subba.
I looked at the following sites
1) www.aapkamanoranjan.com
2) www.lokvani.com (This is a paper magazine as well).
Wrote to the editors of lokvani, if they can post a classified , they do not have free classifieds. aapkamanoranjan, wont let me send them feedback or contact them.
This is a good beginning. We have posted in several sites, having completed this we all will have completed a good effort for IV (INFACT FOR YOU)
Can other members please come forward and list the sites that are regional in their cities and post in them .... 15 minutes and you will have contributed to this thread :-).
What do you folks suggest, shall I change the thread name to something more attractive ...to get evrey one's one's attention on the Forum first. :-)
I looked at the following sites
1) www.aapkamanoranjan.com
2) www.lokvani.com (This is a paper magazine as well).
Wrote to the editors of lokvani, if they can post a classified , they do not have free classifieds. aapkamanoranjan, wont let me send them feedback or contact them.
This is a good beginning. We have posted in several sites, having completed this we all will have completed a good effort for IV (INFACT FOR YOU)
Can other members please come forward and list the sites that are regional in their cities and post in them .... 15 minutes and you will have contributed to this thread :-).
What do you folks suggest, shall I change the thread name to something more attractive ...to get evrey one's one's attention on the Forum first. :-)
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gc_on_demand
11-14 10:52 AM
Totally agree, very nicely put. They will hear - listen if we present ideas that are pertinent to the existing situation. Nothing more pertinent than the housing mess. No one cares about old jaded ideas like "high talent" etc.
Can people in California approach Zoe Lofergens office with the idea?
On my part I will start sending letters and emails to the law makers.
Some one in the core has to take the lead and give some direction to this effort......
Do not regret if six months from now the housing crisis has cooled a little, no one will listen to us then. We would have wasted another chance. Do not take it for granted that now Obama is in office, he will do smoething about our problems.
If you are from california plz make a call. Or if you know some one have him/her call to her office.
We need to keep moving ahead on this one.
Can people in California approach Zoe Lofergens office with the idea?
On my part I will start sending letters and emails to the law makers.
Some one in the core has to take the lead and give some direction to this effort......
Do not regret if six months from now the housing crisis has cooled a little, no one will listen to us then. We would have wasted another chance. Do not take it for granted that now Obama is in office, he will do smoething about our problems.
If you are from california plz make a call. Or if you know some one have him/her call to her office.
We need to keep moving ahead on this one.
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obviously
07-13 10:17 AM
Permit me to call out the grossly misguided emotions I've seen in this thread.
We have a co-alum of the DHS Secy sending a detailed, cogent and EASY TO READY letter pleading for our cause and yet we diss her.
Sheela Murthy might be different things to different people. Reality is that she is agent of capitalism JUST AS WE ARE. Then, why take a holier than thou attitude and arbitrarily attribute nefarious intentions to her actions?
This shallowness illustrates the deep void in vision and a decidedly insular world view.
I would urge IV members to THANK Sheela Murthy for her cogent articulation of the human impact of this disastrous situation and ask her to continue to support the cause through various means.
And by the way, I am NOT a client and that should make no difference in the quest for objective realization that there are shared interests at play.
However, I AM a trained negotiator and conflict mediator (apart from being a co-author of a mediation model) and hence from that perspective would aver that such realization of shared gains are what ADD VALUE to a discussion.
Cheers!
We have a co-alum of the DHS Secy sending a detailed, cogent and EASY TO READY letter pleading for our cause and yet we diss her.
Sheela Murthy might be different things to different people. Reality is that she is agent of capitalism JUST AS WE ARE. Then, why take a holier than thou attitude and arbitrarily attribute nefarious intentions to her actions?
This shallowness illustrates the deep void in vision and a decidedly insular world view.
I would urge IV members to THANK Sheela Murthy for her cogent articulation of the human impact of this disastrous situation and ask her to continue to support the cause through various means.
And by the way, I am NOT a client and that should make no difference in the quest for objective realization that there are shared interests at play.
However, I AM a trained negotiator and conflict mediator (apart from being a co-author of a mediation model) and hence from that perspective would aver that such realization of shared gains are what ADD VALUE to a discussion.
Cheers!
485Mbe4001
09-10 04:14 PM
i guess they were very happy that they discussed the horse issue and they decided to take a well deserved break...as for 5882 who cares, as one poster mentioned, the horses are US citizens and they support the economy by eating grass. Republicans are happy because legal horses will be eating legal grass as opposed to illegals cutting and shipping grass to the horses. Democrats will be happy because the horses are well looked after.
... i am just venting but i think this is a sign of the times we live in :D .To the folks who say that everything will be ok with the new Prez comes, remember the congress will mostly stay the same.
ya ... at least one issue will be closed by them ... hopefully they discuss our bill today ...
... i am just venting but i think this is a sign of the times we live in :D .To the folks who say that everything will be ok with the new Prez comes, remember the congress will mostly stay the same.
ya ... at least one issue will be closed by them ... hopefully they discuss our bill today ...
anurakt
01-16 09:13 PM
If you remember that I had pledged $1000 in last 20$ campaign and you guys could only shell out $500 out of me...which means that I still have a block of $500 which was not spent for IV in the past. Here is my next pledge :
" I will donate a lumpsum amount of $500 when we have the following level of monthly contribution and verified by IV core members :
200 members for 20$ and 100 members for $50 and 20 members for $100 , there is no date restriction attached this time , but I hope that it's done in this month, I call upon the members who can take this challenge and take that $500 from my pocket this time"
Note : Kvrr has signed for $100 and I will sign up for another $100 , which means we have only 18 members to go for $100 monthly to finish one piece of my pledge.
Can anyone tomm morning give me an update on where we are at from my pledge point of view !!
Come on guys make me poorer by another $500 if you have *****.
" I will donate a lumpsum amount of $500 when we have the following level of monthly contribution and verified by IV core members :
200 members for 20$ and 100 members for $50 and 20 members for $100 , there is no date restriction attached this time , but I hope that it's done in this month, I call upon the members who can take this challenge and take that $500 from my pocket this time"
Note : Kvrr has signed for $100 and I will sign up for another $100 , which means we have only 18 members to go for $100 monthly to finish one piece of my pledge.
Can anyone tomm morning give me an update on where we are at from my pledge point of view !!
Come on guys make me poorer by another $500 if you have *****.