dc2007
08-23 01:23 PM
Dear plassey,
Whatever IV is doing fine, nobody here denies that. But here are few points which I think eveybody else is trying to convey, which somehow you don't understand:
1. This site has an open forum where not only active members of IV, but other people (cowerds, that is what you think, you out-spoken fellow) also seek advice, share their experiences and hence help each other. And mind you, because of these all people, IV and this site also get so much popular.
2. The other point is WHY YOU PUSH SO MUCH FOR HELP. I think everybody understands the efforts of IV, but let the person decide himself/herself whether he/she wants to give money, go to DC ralley or not. Help is not demanded.
3. Please mind your language. I don't know why you have so much of anger and you use abusive, disturbing language for others. Its very easy to say a F* word, but very difficult to sort out others problems in decent and graceful manner. I don't think any group like IV (CARE, CRY and hundreds of NGOs in India) will push people like you do.
4. And people like you are shame for a group like IV (please ask pappu too to confirm) who spread negativity like you did in this thread.
You need some help to suppress your anger. Please do that Dear plassy...
Cry baby!
1. If you are interested in knowing about IV very front page provide you ample of information
2. Understood there is only one bread earner, well you do pay 1000s of $ to fill stupid forms to lawyers. A fraction of that amount will produce bigger bang here at IV.
3. Some people here in IV are out of the job but still continuing on their mission. Unfortunately, cowards like you will also be benefited by their efforts.
4. If you really wanted to help, u could have started by joining the state chapter.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE GOOD FOR NOTHING, GO BACK TO YOUR HOLES. AND DON'T SHOW YOUR FACE HERE AGAIN.
Whatever IV is doing fine, nobody here denies that. But here are few points which I think eveybody else is trying to convey, which somehow you don't understand:
1. This site has an open forum where not only active members of IV, but other people (cowerds, that is what you think, you out-spoken fellow) also seek advice, share their experiences and hence help each other. And mind you, because of these all people, IV and this site also get so much popular.
2. The other point is WHY YOU PUSH SO MUCH FOR HELP. I think everybody understands the efforts of IV, but let the person decide himself/herself whether he/she wants to give money, go to DC ralley or not. Help is not demanded.
3. Please mind your language. I don't know why you have so much of anger and you use abusive, disturbing language for others. Its very easy to say a F* word, but very difficult to sort out others problems in decent and graceful manner. I don't think any group like IV (CARE, CRY and hundreds of NGOs in India) will push people like you do.
4. And people like you are shame for a group like IV (please ask pappu too to confirm) who spread negativity like you did in this thread.
You need some help to suppress your anger. Please do that Dear plassy...
Cry baby!
1. If you are interested in knowing about IV very front page provide you ample of information
2. Understood there is only one bread earner, well you do pay 1000s of $ to fill stupid forms to lawyers. A fraction of that amount will produce bigger bang here at IV.
3. Some people here in IV are out of the job but still continuing on their mission. Unfortunately, cowards like you will also be benefited by their efforts.
4. If you really wanted to help, u could have started by joining the state chapter.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE GOOD FOR NOTHING, GO BACK TO YOUR HOLES. AND DON'T SHOW YOUR FACE HERE AGAIN.
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gk_2000
05-01 09:22 AM
Quick Chain of events .
India rejected both Boeing and Lockheed Martin's proposal of fighters . I am not debating the reasons or the merits of this decision if this was right or wrong . I am just discussing the potential repercussions this has had so far and might have .
'Exclusion of US firms from IAF jet deal a setback for ties' (http://www.indianexpress.com/news/exclusion-of-us-firms-from-iaf-jet-deal-a-setback.../783401/)
1) The issue is so serious that Tim Roemer , US Ambassador to India submitted his resignation immediately since he was on the hook for making this deal work .This shows the measure of disappointment they had.
2) India was seeking US assurances in security a Permanent Security council seat , which looks far fetched now .
4) Pentagon , Whitehouse and the DoD very upset that deal fell through . This sentiment will certainly percolate to the USCIS and the State department and might embolden Anti Immigration senators whose measures will get more support in the house and senate.
5) Prosecution of companies entangled in cases like Infosys might find more support and favor with the Govt.
Question is how/if there will be a backlash against India / Indian's get back at us at least in the short term .Increased scrutiny and visa denials , PoE Harassment , GC audits etc.
Will the US take a Tit-for-Tat reaction on this issue is what remains to be seen.
I hope you are not one of the guys, who have mindset to kill the person who they THINK he is in their way to getting GC .. because it will be dangerous combination
And I hope what others have written made you reconsider your view. If not, see this fact : Pakistan has crossed such lines, even done much worse things, several times but US has not broken ties etc. What US actually responds to is the ASSERTION of sovereignty and SELF-RESPECT. Not pansy behavior, if you know what I mean.
Don't worry. US will respect India's right to act in its interests. If they dont, then what difference will remain between it and a common country.
India rejected both Boeing and Lockheed Martin's proposal of fighters . I am not debating the reasons or the merits of this decision if this was right or wrong . I am just discussing the potential repercussions this has had so far and might have .
'Exclusion of US firms from IAF jet deal a setback for ties' (http://www.indianexpress.com/news/exclusion-of-us-firms-from-iaf-jet-deal-a-setback.../783401/)
1) The issue is so serious that Tim Roemer , US Ambassador to India submitted his resignation immediately since he was on the hook for making this deal work .This shows the measure of disappointment they had.
2) India was seeking US assurances in security a Permanent Security council seat , which looks far fetched now .
4) Pentagon , Whitehouse and the DoD very upset that deal fell through . This sentiment will certainly percolate to the USCIS and the State department and might embolden Anti Immigration senators whose measures will get more support in the house and senate.
5) Prosecution of companies entangled in cases like Infosys might find more support and favor with the Govt.
Question is how/if there will be a backlash against India / Indian's get back at us at least in the short term .Increased scrutiny and visa denials , PoE Harassment , GC audits etc.
Will the US take a Tit-for-Tat reaction on this issue is what remains to be seen.
I hope you are not one of the guys, who have mindset to kill the person who they THINK he is in their way to getting GC .. because it will be dangerous combination
And I hope what others have written made you reconsider your view. If not, see this fact : Pakistan has crossed such lines, even done much worse things, several times but US has not broken ties etc. What US actually responds to is the ASSERTION of sovereignty and SELF-RESPECT. Not pansy behavior, if you know what I mean.
Don't worry. US will respect India's right to act in its interests. If they dont, then what difference will remain between it and a common country.
belmontboy
05-18 07:08 PM
I ONLY believe in MERITT based system.
I never voted against anything so far!!:D
going by the visa bulletin u will never get a chance to vote in USA :p
on a serious note, its due time that we accept not getting anywhere with one magical EB reform. we should stop waiting for the magic bullet and rather focus on getting our issues resolved in bits and pieces
I never voted against anything so far!!:D
going by the visa bulletin u will never get a chance to vote in USA :p
on a serious note, its due time that we accept not getting anywhere with one magical EB reform. we should stop waiting for the magic bullet and rather focus on getting our issues resolved in bits and pieces
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pappu
06-17 10:02 AM
Thank you for taking this initiative
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glus
04-13 12:09 PM
I am sure this is the right place to ask such questions but I could not find other thread to post my question.
When we file for I-485, what document do we need to attach to the I-485 form?
Do we need valid Passports?
In general a person who is in the US should have a valid and unexpired passport at all times. In addition, there is a whole loooooong list of documents that you attach to the I485- your attorney should advise you on this. The most important once for employment based immigration are documents showing legal status up until the I485 application and current offer letter from your company. There are many many more documents you need to provide...search the net for the necessary documents...
When we file for I-485, what document do we need to attach to the I-485 form?
Do we need valid Passports?
In general a person who is in the US should have a valid and unexpired passport at all times. In addition, there is a whole loooooong list of documents that you attach to the I485- your attorney should advise you on this. The most important once for employment based immigration are documents showing legal status up until the I485 application and current offer letter from your company. There are many many more documents you need to provide...search the net for the necessary documents...
gc28262
03-27 11:07 AM
Sure, why not. An immigrant who is not in valid status is one who is legally not allowed to be in the country. Therefore he is a security threat. If somebody who should not be allowed in your house were in your house, you would consider him to be a security threat, wouldn't you? Am I missing something here?
Yes you are. That was just a blanket statement. I need some logical reasoning from your side.
"somebody who should not be allowed in your house" is not necessarily a security threat.
The fact that "somebody is allowed to be in the house" doesn't mean that he is a safe person to be around.
The condition "whether one is allowed/not allowed to be in the house" does not have a direct relation to the security aspect.
Yes you are. That was just a blanket statement. I need some logical reasoning from your side.
"somebody who should not be allowed in your house" is not necessarily a security threat.
The fact that "somebody is allowed to be in the house" doesn't mean that he is a safe person to be around.
The condition "whether one is allowed/not allowed to be in the house" does not have a direct relation to the security aspect.
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brkl1935
04-01 08:33 PM
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whoever
12-12 01:43 PM
I am of the opinion that EB3 India will be stuck at May 8 for a long time. The trend to follow will be that of Mexico's. By the way, only my opinion. I hope I am really really wrong. And god have mercy on us.
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prioritydate
07-25 10:50 AM
I know before you start blaming me for this thread, as it is of no use, I would like to point out that most of you must be experiencing the same thing. I didn't care much for Visa bulletin until it became current for EB2 two weeks back. As the time progress, I am doing all sorts of things, like checking USCIS case status, and checking everything that can possibly give me some information. I know that it is waste of time, I know it is not good for health, I know that I will get GC when time comes, but still, my mind is tricking me to think about it. I checked all these forums until 2A.M last night. I am not having enough sleep. I am waiting for a opportunity to get rid of my desi employer. I am really getting frustrated (I am not saying that I have been waiting for GC approval desperately). I just want to share my frustration and what I have been going through. I know I am in a better position than most of other people whose priority date is not even current. I wish they never dangled a carrot in front of me. I am not sure if they disappoint me next month, but I am still keeping my hopes. Hopefully, I would get over this and have enough sleep from today.
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nshantha
07-02 03:20 PM
I spent
Attorney fee 2500
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Fedex 70
Fax 35
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Total - Around $4000
Please include all money weather its company's or your as long as it is for 485..
Attorney fee 2500
Medical Exam 600
Fedex 70
Fax 35
BC 200
Others 500
Total - Around $4000
Please include all money weather its company's or your as long as it is for 485..
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akred
07-14 07:47 PM
Its not only for illegals but its also for kids of legals that aged out due to retrogression or backlogs in visas...plz don't be selfish with view points like "it doesnt help us so im gonna oppose it"....instead help the children who aged out due to the visa backlogs!!! Read what Greg Siskind wrote:
FYI - You can read the bill at http://rs9.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:SN02075: . Note that it applies to kids who entered illegally and kids who entered legally but became illegal later.
On the 245(i) question, unfortunately I have heard nothing about this being reintroduced any time soon.
Posted by: Greg Siskind | July 14, 2007 at 05:24 AM
Aging out does not mean that you become illegal. I suspect you are from Alipac or NumbersUSA trying to bait IV into supporting something to do with illegal immigration.
FYI - You can read the bill at http://rs9.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:SN02075: . Note that it applies to kids who entered illegally and kids who entered legally but became illegal later.
On the 245(i) question, unfortunately I have heard nothing about this being reintroduced any time soon.
Posted by: Greg Siskind | July 14, 2007 at 05:24 AM
Aging out does not mean that you become illegal. I suspect you are from Alipac or NumbersUSA trying to bait IV into supporting something to do with illegal immigration.
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pappu
10-29 08:49 AM
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- Any advice for everyone?
knowledge, knowledge and knowledge! The earlier- the better.
Greatest disappointment that haven't discovered IV back then, say in 2001:D
Very true.
Lack of awareness and information is a big problem. Starting the process early is better. I have seen some people undecided about GC and waiting till the end of H1B to start. It is at that time they discover retrogression. Some discover retrogression only after 140 approval. Until then they are not even aware of IV.
- Any advice for everyone?
knowledge, knowledge and knowledge! The earlier- the better.
Greatest disappointment that haven't discovered IV back then, say in 2001:D
Very true.
Lack of awareness and information is a big problem. Starting the process early is better. I have seen some people undecided about GC and waiting till the end of H1B to start. It is at that time they discover retrogression. Some discover retrogression only after 140 approval. Until then they are not even aware of IV.
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ndny
07-25 02:24 PM
I gets very severe migraine attack almost everyday thinking about the GC !! I took so many pain killers(acetameno) almost everyday ..now they also stopped working on me...and due to these apin killers ..I became acidic ..acidity everyday..even without eating spicy things...my wife says, probably my lever damaged ..don't like to visit doctors ...will it get worse ? I can't escape visiting IV everyday !! Any remedy for me will be highly appreciated....
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help_please
07-13 06:10 PM
Hi everyone,
I reviewed the text of the bill...and, to the best of my understanding, the Dream Act applies to both legal and illegal children. This bill is crucial for me. I am 27 years old and have been in the United States since age 1 (Yes, 26 years)...LEGALLY!!! My husband (i married another visa holder and changed my status about 5 years ago) and I have been pending for a greencard for about 2.5 years now (I'm not counting the other failed attempts)...and still no luck. I completed my bachelors degree in Psychology years ago and cannot work (my field of study is fairly common in the US...nobody I've come across was willing to sponsor for an h-1). Unfortunately, going back to my "home" county isn't an option for me because this is the only home I've ever known. Anyhow, I would really appreciate everyone's support...hopefully this piece of legislation can benefit people like myself and we can contribute to society as well. Thanks!! :)
I reviewed the text of the bill...and, to the best of my understanding, the Dream Act applies to both legal and illegal children. This bill is crucial for me. I am 27 years old and have been in the United States since age 1 (Yes, 26 years)...LEGALLY!!! My husband (i married another visa holder and changed my status about 5 years ago) and I have been pending for a greencard for about 2.5 years now (I'm not counting the other failed attempts)...and still no luck. I completed my bachelors degree in Psychology years ago and cannot work (my field of study is fairly common in the US...nobody I've come across was willing to sponsor for an h-1). Unfortunately, going back to my "home" county isn't an option for me because this is the only home I've ever known. Anyhow, I would really appreciate everyone's support...hopefully this piece of legislation can benefit people like myself and we can contribute to society as well. Thanks!! :)
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mariner5555
11-18 05:58 AM
Vowww... what a wishful thinking.
Definitely nobody would have thought giving Green Cards to Legal Immigrants who are making renting industry thrive can also solve US Housing Slump.
Next time, they may even see a possibility if giving Green Cards can also solve Global Warming!!!!
You know actually it can happen with majority of desis driving green vehicles (honda/toyota).
it is not wishful thinking ..dumbo ..it is a good idea but it doesnt / wont have much support as community is divided and happy with its ead.
money makes the mare go in this world ..say if the immigration community was united and if we were to lobby with the builders and car dealers who make contribution to the politicians then lot of bills would have passed behind the scenes ..earliar h1-b was for 6 years only ..how did the extension come ..behind the scenes the business lobby worked secretly.
Definitely nobody would have thought giving Green Cards to Legal Immigrants who are making renting industry thrive can also solve US Housing Slump.
Next time, they may even see a possibility if giving Green Cards can also solve Global Warming!!!!
You know actually it can happen with majority of desis driving green vehicles (honda/toyota).
it is not wishful thinking ..dumbo ..it is a good idea but it doesnt / wont have much support as community is divided and happy with its ead.
money makes the mare go in this world ..say if the immigration community was united and if we were to lobby with the builders and car dealers who make contribution to the politicians then lot of bills would have passed behind the scenes ..earliar h1-b was for 6 years only ..how did the extension come ..behind the scenes the business lobby worked secretly.
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bailoor
01-15 02:47 PM
First of all, we would like to know whether your wife is pregnant or you are trying to know all the possible option for pregnancy.
If you are trying to know the option,
1) you can choose any individual health insurance provider(like blue cross or Aetna or State Farm etc) with maternity option. They expect to have coverage for 18 months before they accept any claims on maternity.
2) Also, ensure that the health insurance provider is coverage in complete US. Some of them have coverage only in west coast or tri state or midwest etc. In case of IT job, we can relcoate anywhere in US.
If pregnant, try these options.
a) Try to change to another employer who have GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE. Group health insurance cover pre-existing condition and hence no need to worry. Take HIGH premium option so that out-of-pocket is less and your expenses are less.
b) If you cannot change the employer, visit the reasonable cost hospitals around your neighbourhood , talk to the billing staff and ask for discounts. Usually, they give 30% discounts on the total cost. Otherwise, you can talk to the management staff(or write a letter) and get around 30-40% discount.
c) Ensure that you always visit the hospital, doctors, ob/gyn who are covered under your insurance provide network. Though your wife is not covered under maternity, they will work with their network doctor to get the discounted rate. Once you get that rate, ask for additional discount. Surely, you will get around 20-30% discount.
d) Based on my experience, here are the expenses cost....
ob/gyn - around 8k (prenatal to delivery)
pediatrician - around 1k ( from child birth to 2 month)
delivery expenses - around 8k (normal delivery)
- around 18 k ( c section)
scanning expenses - around 3k( depends on the conditions - sometimes, they
expect weekly scanning during 9th month).
Govt provides financial aid provide the total house income is less than 25k which
will not work for any IT professional.
As the expenses are HIGH, join some GOOD company for atleast 2 months, get their group health insurance and then quit and come back to your original company. After you
quit that company, you can use the COBRA option and get the maternity coverage.
GOOD LUCK...
If you are trying to know the option,
1) you can choose any individual health insurance provider(like blue cross or Aetna or State Farm etc) with maternity option. They expect to have coverage for 18 months before they accept any claims on maternity.
2) Also, ensure that the health insurance provider is coverage in complete US. Some of them have coverage only in west coast or tri state or midwest etc. In case of IT job, we can relcoate anywhere in US.
If pregnant, try these options.
a) Try to change to another employer who have GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE. Group health insurance cover pre-existing condition and hence no need to worry. Take HIGH premium option so that out-of-pocket is less and your expenses are less.
b) If you cannot change the employer, visit the reasonable cost hospitals around your neighbourhood , talk to the billing staff and ask for discounts. Usually, they give 30% discounts on the total cost. Otherwise, you can talk to the management staff(or write a letter) and get around 30-40% discount.
c) Ensure that you always visit the hospital, doctors, ob/gyn who are covered under your insurance provide network. Though your wife is not covered under maternity, they will work with their network doctor to get the discounted rate. Once you get that rate, ask for additional discount. Surely, you will get around 20-30% discount.
d) Based on my experience, here are the expenses cost....
ob/gyn - around 8k (prenatal to delivery)
pediatrician - around 1k ( from child birth to 2 month)
delivery expenses - around 8k (normal delivery)
- around 18 k ( c section)
scanning expenses - around 3k( depends on the conditions - sometimes, they
expect weekly scanning during 9th month).
Govt provides financial aid provide the total house income is less than 25k which
will not work for any IT professional.
As the expenses are HIGH, join some GOOD company for atleast 2 months, get their group health insurance and then quit and come back to your original company. After you
quit that company, you can use the COBRA option and get the maternity coverage.
GOOD LUCK...
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EkAurAaya
10-11 04:23 PM
Thats true..everybody are bothered about EAD and FP. I am here for more than 8 years in this country. IV should emphasise this and USICS should allow affected candidates like us to file I-485 and atleast get EAD. we have priority date earlier compared to others.
What is your PD? were you stuck in BEC?
What is your PD? were you stuck in BEC?
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reddymjm
05-13 04:00 PM
I suggest you wait and see if you can reconcile your differences......Marriage is a life long commitment. Remember we fall in love and we work on our marriages. Try reading the book called "5 Love Languages" by Gary Chapman....It is an excellent book for couples who are on the verge of breaking or even for couples who want to enhance their married life.
Sorry I do not have any advice for you, except that you try to get back together....which will help you avoid refiling 485 or refiling Labor......The choice is yours!!!
I Second this.
Sorry I do not have any advice for you, except that you try to get back together....which will help you avoid refiling 485 or refiling Labor......The choice is yours!!!
I Second this.
bobyal
05-12 11:39 AM
Pappu,
Reality is DREAM act is directly connected to HISPANIC votes for Democrats, EB community doesnt have any VOTING rights, neither they get any support from the folks who are already GC/UScitizenship holders.
Once people are out of this GC mess, they all start talking about anti immigration and that's the reality, u go to any indian community around and see how much support you have from those folks who have GC/US citizenship.
That brings a new point for IV leadership. In line with HISPANIC movement, can we take/seek help from various associations of India/China like the ones in link Indian Associations in the US : NRI Desi Associations in USA : India Social, Cultural, Religious Organisations (http://www.thokalath.com/North-America/Indo-American-Community.php)
Reality is DREAM act is directly connected to HISPANIC votes for Democrats, EB community doesnt have any VOTING rights, neither they get any support from the folks who are already GC/UScitizenship holders.
Once people are out of this GC mess, they all start talking about anti immigration and that's the reality, u go to any indian community around and see how much support you have from those folks who have GC/US citizenship.
That brings a new point for IV leadership. In line with HISPANIC movement, can we take/seek help from various associations of India/China like the ones in link Indian Associations in the US : NRI Desi Associations in USA : India Social, Cultural, Religious Organisations (http://www.thokalath.com/North-America/Indo-American-Community.php)
natrajs
09-02 11:01 AM
It is not true that Many people have to wait 10+ years to get gc. May be some people might wait for 10 years because of frequent change of jobs , layoffs and also ignorance of green card processing. Most of the time EB2 waiting time is 2 to 3 years. Indian EB3 is in worst situation but only for past 2 years and before that everything was current. For that also most waiting persons filed I 485 because of July VB issue. In my opinion EB3 PD will be backdated up to 5 years.
Also there is no legistrative activity in Congress about any immigration issue. Always skil bill comes in limelight when congress is in Session. But everyone knows that skil bill is asking too much in H1b and immigration numbers because of exemptions and it will be very difficult task. But no one in pro immigrant community is ready to compromise on numbers. When Congress tries to curb the abuse of H1b even pro immigrants are opposing the bills without any suggestion of any alternatives. If some bill comes for only GC that too moderate increase in numbers that will have bright chance of passing in congress.
You should not expect any rally will produce meaningful reform. It has to be proved that additional immigrant and H1b numbers will produce more jobs and it should not create unemployment in americans.Just sufferings of gc waiters is not enough. My opinion is Rally will be used to show strength of IV and may educate public and Congress. But anti immigrants also doing Similar Campaign(not big rallies) by negative points of immigration. The same congress till the end of 2008 and I doubt they will consider any immigration issue till new congress comes in 2009 that is not too far from now. But it is always good to try all the time.
Before any reform comes most IV members may get GC.
Dear Friend
It�s not about GC for the IV's member or for the core Team, It�s a momentum and we want to keep it going and fight for it
Many people has switched the job because of many factors they have faced during their employment and are forced to start all over again to get the GC, It is not ignorance on their part, it is manly because of the broken GC process.
Whether we can able to make the Congress and Senate work on CIR during this fall or on 2009 is irrelevant.
But we can make huge impact on their mind that they have to address this issue, they can not simply ignore us
Just think about that if our fore fathers (freedom fighters of any country) thought about immediate results then they wouldn�t fight for it and get the independence.
In an old say that a person who plant a tree will not get the fruit of it and but he/she did it for the future generations.
So please participate and get this momentum going
Also there is no legistrative activity in Congress about any immigration issue. Always skil bill comes in limelight when congress is in Session. But everyone knows that skil bill is asking too much in H1b and immigration numbers because of exemptions and it will be very difficult task. But no one in pro immigrant community is ready to compromise on numbers. When Congress tries to curb the abuse of H1b even pro immigrants are opposing the bills without any suggestion of any alternatives. If some bill comes for only GC that too moderate increase in numbers that will have bright chance of passing in congress.
You should not expect any rally will produce meaningful reform. It has to be proved that additional immigrant and H1b numbers will produce more jobs and it should not create unemployment in americans.Just sufferings of gc waiters is not enough. My opinion is Rally will be used to show strength of IV and may educate public and Congress. But anti immigrants also doing Similar Campaign(not big rallies) by negative points of immigration. The same congress till the end of 2008 and I doubt they will consider any immigration issue till new congress comes in 2009 that is not too far from now. But it is always good to try all the time.
Before any reform comes most IV members may get GC.
Dear Friend
It�s not about GC for the IV's member or for the core Team, It�s a momentum and we want to keep it going and fight for it
Many people has switched the job because of many factors they have faced during their employment and are forced to start all over again to get the GC, It is not ignorance on their part, it is manly because of the broken GC process.
Whether we can able to make the Congress and Senate work on CIR during this fall or on 2009 is irrelevant.
But we can make huge impact on their mind that they have to address this issue, they can not simply ignore us
Just think about that if our fore fathers (freedom fighters of any country) thought about immediate results then they wouldn�t fight for it and get the independence.
In an old say that a person who plant a tree will not get the fruit of it and but he/she did it for the future generations.
So please participate and get this momentum going